大罢工重创波音，因多次谈判失败罢工仍在继续，波音预计已经损失60亿美元-pg电子麻将胡了
boeing strike will continue if unx members don't vote for deal, says iam 751 president jon holden译文简介
把波音还给工程师吧。波音需要意识到，在接下来的四年合同中，他们需要进行重组，并希望至少实现收支平衡。试图榨取波音的每一分钱正是毁灭它的原因。
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give boeing back to the engineers. boeing needs to realize that this next four your contract they need to restructure and hope to at least break even. trying to squeeze every drop of money out of boeing is what destroyed it.
把波音还给工程师吧。波音需要意识到，在接下来的四年合同中，他们需要进行重组，并希望至少实现收支平衡。试图榨取波音的每一分钱正是毁灭它的原因。
give boeing back to the engineers. boeing needs to realize that this next four your contract they need to restructure and hope to at least break even. trying to squeeze every drop of money out of boeing is what destroyed it.
把波音还给工程师吧。波音需要意识到，在接下来的四年合同中，他们需要进行重组，并希望至少实现收支平衡。试图榨取波音的每一分钱正是毁灭它的原因。
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ironically, one of the issues they have is massive cutbacks in beancounters, then offloading that work onto engineers.
讽刺的是，他们面临的问题之一是大幅裁减财务人员，然后将这些工作转嫁给工程师。
if iam strike is so critical you are not giving a fair contract
如果国际航空员工联盟（iam）罢工如此关键，你们却没有提供公平的合同。
they should try other places for a "fair contract".
他们应该尝试其他地方以获得“公平的合同”。
need to clean out the board that is your culture change.
需要清理董事会，这就是你们的文化变革。
need to fire upper management
需要解雇高层管理人员。
they fired ted colbert right out of gate since kelly took over..
自从凯利接管后，他们一上任就解雇了特德·科尔伯特。
@johnguildy also get rid of stephanie pope and susan doniz
也要清除斯蒂芬妮·波普和苏珊·多尼兹。
@johnguildy yeah bds lost almost 900mil alone and lost nasa contract for the foreseeable future.
是的，bds单独损失了近9亿美元，并且在可预见的未来失去了nasa合同。
the only way for boeing to recover is for the federal government to declare boeing’s former capability to be important strategically, and to commit to pouring taxpayer money into redeveloping the engineering and technical capability destroyed by 25 years of bad management which had too much focus on stockholders and not enough on engineering and producing great aircraft. boeing stockholders should be bought out and boeings remaining assets should used to restore whatever company or companies that emerge someday to someday be a competent competitor to the new de facto leader in commercial aerospace airbus. this should be treated as like the manhattan project or the space race of the sixties and early seventies where the mission was the focus and not the profits.
波音恢复的唯一途径是联邦政府宣布波音过去的能力在战略上具有重要意义，并承诺投入纳税人的资金，重新开发因25年糟糕管理而被破坏的工程和技术能力，这些管理过于关注股东而忽视了工程和制造优秀飞机。波音的股东应该被收购，波音剩余的资产应用于恢复未来可能出现的任何公司，以便有朝一日能够成为商业航空领域新事实领导者空中客车的有力竞争对手。这应该像曼哈顿计划或六七十年代的太空竞赛一样，将任务作为重点，而不是利润。
fu no. no taxpayer $ until they focus on hiring only the best
不，绝不。在他们专注于只招聘最优秀的人之前，不会有纳税人的资金。
thats a great idea but like they say those are bygone days. greed of corporate america is stronger than the loyalty and pride of the product.
这是个好主意，但正如他们所说，那些已经是过去的时代。美国企业的贪婪比对产品的忠诚和自豪更强。
dont put your eggs in one basket
不要把所有的鸡蛋放在一个篮子里。
karma for boeing!!
波音的业力！！
start respecting your workers. what the workers asked for seemed reasonable considering what they have been through with boeing. yet boeing talks about shareholders more than anything
开始尊重你的员工吧。考虑到员工们在波音经历的一切，他们的要求看起来很合理。然而，波音却最关注股东。
as a 12 year flightline a/p mechanic at boeing.
i have a suggestion and direction on how to change the company's culture.
reinstate the boeing pension and you will start the path to recovery and changing the culture for the better.
when the pension was lost in 2014 this company ripped the soul out of the mechanics.
a little history, boeing was always the cream of the top.
you had a pension & 401k & good medical and engineering worked hand and hand with mechanics.
mr. kelly orthberg if you want to start the path of recovery, then listen to what is important to the company's employees.
rebuild trust and commitment.
reinstate the boeing pension for all
( ceo to grade a. )
you said you want to change the culture and start the path to bring boeing back to the top.
offer your employees a world class contract
作为波音拥有12年经验的飞行线a/p机械师，我有一个建议和方向来改变公司的文化。
恢复波音的退休金，你们将开始复苏和改善文化的道路。2014年退休金被取消时，公司摧毁了机械师们的灵魂。
回顾一下历史，波音一直是顶尖的公司。你们有退休金、401k和良好的医疗，工程师与机械师紧密合作。
凯利·奥思伯格先生，如果你想开始复苏的道路，就听听公司员工的重要需求。
重建信任和承诺。为所有人恢复波音退休金（从ceo到a级员工）。
你说你想改变文化，并开始将波音带回顶峰的道路。为你的员工提供世界级的合同。
and only hire world class workers
并且只招聘世界级的员工。
i think the board of directors should have put you in charge, and the company would be back at work pumping out airplanes for its customers. a digruntled work force is not healthy.
我认为董事会应该让你来掌管，公司就会重新开始为客户生产飞机。不满的员工队伍是不健康的。
did you hear him in the video he had a plan from the start and is executing it. nothing is going to change
你在视频中听到他从一开始就有一个计划并正在执行吗？什么都不会改变。
how about you take a pay cut
你能考虑降薪吗？
i think he already did
我认为他已经降薪了。
@egghead991 he did
他降薪了。
@egghead991 1week paycut for 32k
一周降薪3.2万。
well, make it the place to work again. have hiring standards. show some loyalty to your workers and they will show it back. the transefer of knowledge stopped the day they took the pension away.
好吧，再次让这里成为一个理想的工作场所。制定招聘标准。对你的员工表现出一些忠诚，他们也会回报你。知识转移从他们取消退休金的那天就停止了。
yes silly kelly you need a culture change at your level and in your circles stop looting and blaming those whom build the product. shame shame! silly kelly
是的，愚蠢的凯利，你需要在你的层级和圈子中进行文化变革，停止掠夺和指责那些制造产品的人。可耻，可耻！愚蠢的凯利。
in any large company you hear almost nothing but negative talk from hourly workers concerning management, instead of seeing everyone as on the same team, pressing toward the same goals. rather than complaining, why not ask the hard question: what am i doing to make this situation better?
在任何大型公司，你几乎只听到小时工对管理层的负面评价，而不是将每个人视为同一个团队，共同朝着相同的目标努力。与其抱怨，为什么不问一个难题：我在做什么来改善这种情况？
he just came on board from retirement. why are you 'again' blaming and accusing the wrong person?
他刚从退休中上任。你们为什么“再次”责怪和指责错误的人？
the machinists failed to care about the safety of building these aircraft. yes leadership has a lot of fault but if you are a line employee you need to do your job right.
机械师们没有关心制造这些飞机的安全。是的，领导层有很多过错，但如果你是生产线员工，你需要做好自己的工作。
@gaferr-r4r if you only knew...i wish i could show how incorrect you are.
如果你知道的话……我希望我能展示你有多么错误。
@reubenmorris487 i know brother i know, and i am with you, i feel for you!! the punch of furlough has hit me twice. i am a unx employee very closely tied to what you do both on the civilian side and military but it’s important that we do our job to the best of our ability. i could be wrong but that’s just how i feel.
i wish you guys success and luck on your contract negotiations. keep your head high
我知道，兄弟，我知道，我支持你，我理解你！！被停工的打击我已经经历了两次。我是一个工会员工，与民用和军用方面你所做的工作紧密相关，但我们尽最大努力做好自己的工作很重要。我可能错了，但这就是我的感受。祝你们在合同谈判中取得成功和好运。保持自信。
boeing: the social welfare program with a side gig in manufacturing.
波音：一个附带制造业的社会福利项目。
we are still voting no
我们仍然在投反对票。
ecspecially renton gosh darn. i love my job best job i’ve ever had and i hope one day i can retire there. it’s ruff putting away every little penny when you ain’t getting nothing in the beginning. i’m glad it’s changing for you us as a collective.
尤其是伦顿，天哪。我热爱我的工作，这是我做过最好的工作，我希望有一天我能在那里退休。当一开始什么都得不到时，存下每一分钱真的很难。我很高兴这对我们集体来说正在改变。
just had 4 family members vote no on the contract
我有4个家庭成员对合同投了反对票。
start being an example the united states of america can be proud of.
开始成为美国可以自豪的榜样。
that has to start from you which is impossible.
这必须从你开始，这是不可能的。
it was this morning about the earnings coming out, oct 23rd.. it just happened to fall on today for the vote.
今天早上讨论的是10月23日公布的信息……正好碰上了今天的投票。
he talks about 'shoring up the balance sheet' and a ten to fifteen billion dollar capital raise. would be nice if he had stated exactly how that would be done.
他说的是“巩固资产负债表”和100亿到150亿美元的资本筹集。如果他能具体说明如何做到这一点，那就好了。
it's already been stated in other stories around the web...
其他网站上的报道已经提到了这一点……
@reubenmorris487 great! maybe you would like to share a source? a youtube video would be preferable. but i know you are a busy person so don't go to too much trouble.
太好了！也许你愿意分享一个来源吗？优先提供youtube视频。但我知道你很忙，所以不要太麻烦。
you better believe it isnt going to involve board members and ceo taking a pay cut. they need those tens of millions of dollars in bonuses to buy a 5th or 6th mansion
你最好相信，这不会涉及董事会成员和ceo降薪。他们需要那些数千万美元的奖金来购买第五或第六栋豪宅。
ah... ha... i wonder which finance bro gave him that idea. boeing is chronically understaffed, with 'quality' being one of the first things sacrificed in order for fewer people doing more work.
啊……哈哈……我想知道是哪个金融兄弟给了他这个主意。波音长期人手不足，为了让更少的人做更多的工作，“质量”是最先被牺牲的东西之一。
they're overstaffed in management, that's where all the fancy paychecks and benefits are.
他们在管理层人员过剩，那是所有花哨的薪水和福利的地方。
try having pilots help on engineers designs who can’t project the issues on the planes, looks good on paper to them and then they fall out of the sky.
试着让飞行员帮助工程师设计，那些设计无法预测飞机上的问题，对他们来说纸面上看起来不错，结果飞机却从天上坠落。
"we really need to embark on a culture change" ... waw, what a subtle metaphor: "embark" being the key word ... announcing that boeing is about to "embark" on a trip ... to a different culture.
the brazilian one ?
“我们真的需要开始文化变革”……哇，多么微妙的隐喻：“开始”是关键字……宣布波音即将“开始”一段旅程……进入不同的文化。
是巴西的那个吗？
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eliminate all dei mandates.
消除所有dei规定。
did he just say 3:06 they are overstaffed? more like underpaid this ceo just put his foot in his mouth.
他刚在3:06说他们人手过剩了吗？更像是低薪，这个ceo简直说错话了。
,, companies i worked at brought in consultants for just this,,guess what? they said it takes a minimum of 7 years of hard work,, and my companies response was always,, nah,, that's to long, skip it
我工作的公司为了这个引入了顾问，，猜猜怎么着？他们说至少需要7年的努力工作，，而我的公司总是回应，，不，那太久了，跳过它。
one word hydroelectroromaticstat engine runs off solar and 5 fuel cell power sources and once the motor is up to full rpm’s it can run off its own power and some day plains will be motor less thill be these huge wing glider you’ll will take a eleavater to the belly of the plane and then you will or the plain will catalbolt off this high boxed in post form and then you will glide to your destination
一句话，氢电自动发动机依靠太阳能和5个燃料电池电源运行，一旦电动机达到全转速，它可以依靠自身的动力运行，总有一天，飞机将不再有引擎，而是这些巨大的翼滑翔机，你将乘电梯到飞机腹部，然后飞机将从这个高大的封闭形态中弹出，然后你将滑翔到目的地。
hahaha! overstaffed. thats what you say when you have lost control and want retribution. i can see airbus now with drool falling from their mouths.
哈哈哈！人手过剩。这就是当你失去控制并想要报复时会说的话。我现在可以看到空中客车流口水的样子了。
he’s so unsure of what’s happening….
他对正在发生的事情感到如此不确定……
he is also largely irrelevant. the board is still setting priorities, with calhoun right back in. if he was not so well paid i would feel sorry for the guy given he is mostly there to make non-board investors (are they bagholders yet?) feel better.
他在很大程度上也是无关紧要的。董事会仍在设定优先事项，卡尔霍恩又回来了。如果他没有那么高的薪水，我会同情这个人，因为他主要是为了让非董事会投资者（他们是不是已经是袋持有者了？）感到更好。
begin hiring non-unx machinists. lower the next offer to the unx. tell them you will take 60% of them back and job goes away when some one leaves position for any reason. if they reject offer, lower the next offer and say you will take 50% of them back. let's play
开始雇用非工会的机械师。降低对工会的下一个报价。告诉他们你将回收60%的员工，并且当有人因任何原因离职时，工作岗位将消失。如果他们拒绝报价，降低下一个报价，并说你将回收50%的员工。让我们开始吧。
cultural change should mean the abolishment of barring employment based on background checks because it applies unequally to a certain class of people.
文化变革应该意味着废除基于背景调查而拒绝雇佣，因为这对某些阶层的人不公平。
eh, they don't want people who got caught. they love that 'class of people', i think they call them 'entrepreneur' and 'leaders', but hate losers who can't stay ahead of authorities.
嗯，他们不想要被抓住的人。他们喜欢那种“特定阶层的人”，我想他们称之为“企业家”和“领导者”，但讨厌那些无法领先于当局的失败者。
i hope being had lan to move 737to so carolina to get away from unx.
我希望波音有能力将737迁往卡罗来纳州，以逃离工会。
you guys can’t read or have the skill set!
你们根本不会读书或没有技能！
they can't. because then they won't have the machinist in everett to correct those mistakes coming out of that plant.
他们做不到。因为那样他们就不会有埃弗雷特的机械师来纠正从那个工厂出来的错误。
lou 42. 737max ain’t going nowhere
737 max 无处可去。
they already tried that with the 787 now have to fly them back to everett to complete or major rework. wrapped in scaffolding type rework.
他们已经对787尝试过了，现在不得不把飞机飞回埃弗雷特进行完成或大规模的返工。采用脚手架式的返工方式。
the problem began when boeing gave profit sharing to employees, which incentivized short cuts.
问题始于波音给员工分红，这激励了走捷径。
man do not quit your day job there einstein.
伙计，别辞掉你的本职工作，爱因斯坦。
all these people complaining about unx workers getting paid. but a grade 4 mechanic after 4 years with that last contract offer would still make less than a ups driver delivering packages. if ups can afford to pay their people so can boeing.
这些人都在抱怨工会工人拿工资。但如果按照最后的合同报价，四年后四级技工的工资仍然会比ups的快递员低。如果ups能负担得起他们的工资，波音也可以。
thats false! a grade 4 would top out at 60 with the latest contract.
这不正确！根据最新合同，四级技工的最高工资会达到60美元。
@csick11 no they wouldn't. not even a grade 6 would.
不，他们不会。连六级技工也不会。
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@csick11 grade 6 max pay is $45 12% is 50.4 6% = 53.42 6% = 56.62 7% = $60.59 so if grade 6 just varely cracks 60 after 4 years a grade 4 won't. do you think a ups driver will still be at $60 an hour in 4 years?
六级技工的最高工资是45美元，加上12%就是50.4，加上6%就是53.42，再加上6%是56.62，再加上7%就是60.59，所以如果四级技工在四年后勉强达到60美元，四级技工就不会。你认为ups的快递员在四年后还会赚60美元每小时吗？
whats the salary of a ups worker? and a boeing machinist?
ups工人的工资是多少？波音技工的工资又是多少？
@wl6020 i think drivers make 49 right now.
我认为快递员现在的工资是49美元。
under the present contract, a grade 4 maxes out after 6 years at $42.99 dollars per hour. this grade 4 makes $24.00 per hour which is a little less than 50k/annum. i have to pay boeing to work there. as per the contract that was voted down grade 4 would have maxed at 60.09 after 6 years. but now the old contract is still in force. do you seriously think in 6 years you will be able to afford more at $43.00/hr. than you can afford now at $24.00/hr.?
根据目前的合同，四级技工在六年后最高工资为每小时42.99美元。这位四级技工的时薪为24.00美元，年收入略低于5万美元。我得付给波音才能在那工作。根据被否决的合同，四级技工在六年后最高工资本来会是60.09美元。但现在旧合同仍然有效。你真的认为在六年后你能以每小时43.00美元的工资过得比现在每小时24.00美元更好？
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生活现在变得越来越贵，无论波音六年后给我的工资是多少。我想说的是，工资必须在每一步都能达到生活标准。我们现在的起薪是每小时30.00美元（62k），然后再逐步提升。这将是一笔加薪。我不关心养老金，这对我没有影响。我要关心的是工作文化。我们是在制造飞机，而不是汉堡。那些管理层中无法、不会或不想认同这一点的人应该立刻被解雇。养老金不会改变这一点。
junior software engineer salary in seattle, wa. $83,100, after 4 years of studying 12 hours per day and a pile of student loan debt after graduated. go figure.
华盛顿州西雅图的初级软件工程师年薪为83,100美元，经过四年以上每天学习超过12小时，并且毕业后背负了一堆学生贷款债务。真是令人费解。
@bac3phi thats not hard all at, i did it. going to college ain’t hard. lol
这并不难，我做到了。上大学并不难。哈哈
@peerlessroger dude. grade 6’s are at 86k a year base. don’t lie
伙计，六级技工的基础年薪是86k。别撒谎。
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@autocrossahole i'm not lying and grade 6 maxed out currently is $45 an hour. look it up.
我没撒谎，六级技工的最高时薪目前是45美元。查查吧。
they need to give them what the unx is asking for and start building planes again.
他们需要满足工会的要求，开始重新生产飞机。
lets not forget years and years of company miss handling and gutting of the engineering core by the upper echelon. the labor movement needs to be strong to let them know its time for the pendulum to start to come back and re-align the true boeing spirit and support the people that actually do the work. rising tides raise all ships...
我们不能忘记多年来公司高层对工程核心的错误处理和削弱。劳工运动需要强大，以让他们知道是时候让潮流回归，重新对齐真正的波音精神，支持那些实际工作的人。潮起则船高……
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this isnt a labor movement. tell that to the suppliers that are furloughed and laid off and tell the 10 percent of the boeing workforce thats being laid off. this is a iam movement. labor and workers have zero to do with this so stop lying to us and yourselves.
这不是一场劳工运动。告诉那些被临时休假和解雇的供应商，以及被裁员的波音员工的10%。这是一场工会运动。劳工和工人与此毫无关系，所以别再对我们和你自己撒谎了。
boeing has not make any profit since 2018 and their debt keep piling up. q3 earning just reported a huge lost. mega layoff can't be avoided and this new ceo is no joke. he will do whatever it takes to save the company.
自2018年以来，波音没有任何利润，他们的债务不断增加。第三季度的盈利报告显示巨额亏损。大规模裁员是不可避免的，这位新任首席执行官可不是开玩笑的。他会不惜一切代价拯救公司。
yeah not making any money been buying back inflated stocks to the tune of 40 billion, that's where the profits went to give themselves stock and sell off for those nice salaries
是的，波音没有赚钱，却用400多亿回购了被高估的股票，利润都流向了高管的股票和高薪。
including pay himself a 22 million dollar a year salary. the top 17 delegates of boeing make more than all 33000 unx members combined, think about that.
包括给自己支付2200万美元的年薪。波音的前17名代表的收入超过所有33000名工会成员的总和，想想这个。
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shits gonna go down when they get back to work dude. layoffs are gonna happen
当他们重返工作岗位时，事情会变得严重，伙计。裁员即将发生。
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lets see how many "unx brothers and sisters" will pay their bills then
让我们看看有多少“工会兄弟姐妹”能支付他们的账单。
greedy machinists will have to pay the piper.
贪婪的技工将不得不付出代价。
@khaosgaming4438 who’s going to build the planes? rest assured it’s not robots. the iam literally build the planes.
谁来造飞机？放心，这可不是机器人。工会实际是在制造飞机。
remember, boeing management can immediately end the strike any time they want by simply giving the workers what they're asking for.
记住，波音管理层随时可以通过满足工人的要求立即结束罢工。
they will never,ever get a pension.
他们永远都拿不到养老金。
@ronklamertvideos8311 maybe not. but just keep in mind that when you hear in the news that some executive says ending the strike is their top priority, they are lying.
也许不是。但请记住，当你在新闻中听到某个高管说结束罢工是他们的首要任务时，他们是在撒谎。
so better take a huge loss then paying the workers?
那还不如大幅亏损，也不愿支付工人薪水吗？
that is crazy. i thought they were gonna accept the boeing offer. fight the good fight
这太疯狂了。我以为他们会接受波音的报价。坚持斗争！
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honestly this contract was very close for everyone i talked to. if they had same offer with more pto and shorter progression steps to max out it probably would have been accepted
老实说，这份合同对我谈过的每个人来说都很接近。如果他们提供相同的报价，加上更多的休假时间和更短的晋升步骤，可能会被接受。
same, i liked the contract. i really did, but all these people saying that we would be making 60 bucks an hour don't realize that right now we are being paid 25 bucks and that it would take us 6 years to get to that point. i say getting a massive lump sum increase at the end of your six years should instead be spread out through the six years. it was literally the only issue i had with the proposed contract.
我也是，我喜欢这份合同。我确实喜欢，但所有说我们会挣60美元一小时的人并没有意识到，现在我们才挣25美元，并且需要六年才能达到那个水平。我认为在六年结束时获得一笔巨额增加应该在这六年中分散开来。这是我对提议的合同唯一的问题。
boeing management is stupid for trying to haggle over percentage points when the company is already in such a dire situation.
波音管理层在公司处于如此困境时，仍试图争论百分比，这真是愚蠢。
we'll be honking when we pass by beep beeeeep!!!!!
我们经过时会按喇叭的，嘟嘟嘟！！
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boeing is having problems making a safe plane. this company would fold if it wasn’t almost a monopoly
波音在制造安全飞机方面遇到了问题。如果不是几乎垄断，这家公司早就倒闭了。
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the boeing machinist strike continues after the recent rejection of the latest offer. boeing is in a deep dive and is unlikely to pull out anytime soon. the management cut corners, hired incompetent maintenance workers and jeopardized the safety of its passengers. it will take a long time to undo the damage and re-establish safe production practices and financial stability.
波音技工的罢工在最近拒绝最新报价后仍在继续。波音正处于深度危机中，短期内不太可能扭转局面。管理层削减开支，聘用了无能的维护工人，危及乘客安全。恢复安全生产实践和财务稳定需要很长时间。
my sister worked at boeing in everett in mrp for about 25 years. she passed away 2 months ago from cancer @59 years old
我姐姐在埃弗雷特的波音工作了大约25年。她两个月前因癌症去世，享年59岁。
deepest condolences
深表哀悼。
sorry for your loss.
为你的损失感到遗憾。
boeing is an example of the abject failure of poor hiring practices and poor management.
波音是糟糕的招聘实践和管理失误的典型例子。
this better be settled in a win-win manner, otherwise boeing might have to move out of wa permanently
这最好能以双赢的方式解决，否则波音可能会永久撤离华盛顿州。
swedish workers are with you.
瑞典工人支持你们。
tak!
谢谢！
ask john deer machinists how their strike ended up. they moved the jobs to mexico
问问约翰迪尔的技工，他们的罢工结果如何。他们的工作转移到了墨西哥。
meanwhile boeing is now most likely purchasing land in texas. there is nothing quite like a boeing machinist strike. three steps forward, ten steps back.
与此同时，波音现在很可能在德克萨斯州购买土地。没有什么比波音技工的罢工更像样的了。前进三步，退后十步。
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boeing should have moved to texas years ago.
波音早该几年前就搬到德克萨斯州了。
i wonder how much longer can some workers hang on? maybe another month? there has to be a percentage of people who cant hang on after another month.
我在想一些工人还能坚持多久？也许再一个月？一定有一部分人再坚持一个月就无法承受了。
and we don't like scabs
而且我们不喜欢替工。
congratulation, progress in moving american manufacturing overseas. keep up the good work guys and gals.
恭喜你们，美国制造业正在向海外转移。继续加油，大家！
nah. they'll eventually move to texas or florida.
不，他们最终会搬到德克萨斯州或佛罗里达州。
they have contracts that require us assembly but they should definitely move to a state whose policies don't drive up the cost of living so their employees can live off of their wages. democrat's tax theft scams in washington state have inflated the cost of living and housing.
他们有合同要求在美国组装，但他们绝对应该搬到一个政策不会推高生活成本的州，以便员工能靠工资生活。华盛顿州民主党的税收盗窃骗局已经抬高了生活和住房成本。
they been trying for years, i’ll believe when i see it
他们已经尝试了很多年，我得看到才会相信。
this is infuriating!! these idiots turned down to 35% raise, that would push some grade of mechanics to the same pay as a mid-level engineer who has been on the job for over five years. in what freaking world does a mechanic drills holes all day deserved to make as much as someone who designed these complex machines. bullsh*t! mark my words, they will get their 40% raise, and four years later the company will come back with a vengeance worse than 10 years before. when they have the upper hand. can’t expect to be paid this much in such low level jobs and not expect serious retribution for it. watch
这让人愤怒！！这些人竟然拒绝了35%的加薪，这将使某些级别的技工的薪水与工作超过五年的中级工程师持平。究竟在什么样的世界里，整天钻孔的技工能和设计这些复杂机器的人拿到同样的工资？
真是胡扯！记住我的话，他们会得到40%的加薪，但四年后公司会以更糟的方式反击，胜过十年前。当他们掌握主动权时。不能指望在这种低级别的工作中拿这么多工资，却不期待会受到严重的报复。拭目以待。
i agree. these people should’ve taken it it
我同意。这些人应该接受的。
you speak like your part of boeing management blame corporate greed & poor upper management who cares about pushing planes out fast as they can. don’t blame the hands who makes these aircraft, only to see the ceo receive a 40% increase in a year and a golden parachute to happily leave the company.
你说话的语气像是波音管理层的人。别怪普通工人，怪那些只关心尽快推动车的企业贪婪和糟糕的高层管理。别指责那些制造飞机的工人，而是看看首席执行官在一年内涨了40%的薪水，拿着金色降落伞愉快地离开公司。
nobody cares, work harder.
没人关心，努力工作吧。
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@_jaypyrotechnics managers don’t build planes dangerously. mechanics do.
管理者并不会危险地建造飞机。是技工们。
got lost, no cares about your “blame management” mantra.
无话可说，不在乎你“责怪管理层”的口号。
@richardcrow6884 yes! congratulations on speaking for yourself mantra!
是的！恭喜你为自己发声！
at this point give them 40% and layoff 40%.
此时给他们40%的加薪，然后裁掉40%的员工。
yesssssss! for every action there is a reaction. plenty come into work everyday and sit on phones and wear jordan shoes while working that cost 200 plus bucks but claim they're underpaid
是的！每个行动都有反应。很多人每天上班玩手机，穿着价值超过200美元的乔丹鞋，却说自己工资低。
@johnsmith-bb8is and wear jordan shoes!!! you made my night with that one. thank you sir.
还穿着乔丹鞋！你让我今晚开心了，谢谢你，先生。
they are nuts. move it out of washington
他们真是疯狂。把它搬出华盛顿。
greed is a bad thing
贪婪是一件坏事。
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@knightridermsn but it’s not greed when the company gives their upper management huge raises and leaves the ones on the floor to suffer in the rising inflation? think before you speak smart guy
但当公司给高层管理大幅加薪，而让一线员工在不断上涨的通货膨胀中受苦，这算不算贪婪？说话前请思考，聪明人。
i agree, boeing management shouldn't have been greedy with their lowball offer
我同意，波音管理层不应该在报价中如此小气。
rip boeing
波音安息。
boeing cannot fail. strategically paramount for us
波音不能失败。对美国来说具有战略重要性。
talking about screwing themselves out of a job. the company is already losing billions, bad reputation on there product. job layoffs on the horizon. orders disappearing. this is not the time on loading up the basket. boeing is trying to rebrand their failing image on bad product. cut your losses and get it done. no bailouts here.
谈论的是他们自己搞砸了工作。这家公司已经在亏损数十亿，产品声誉不佳。裁员在即，订单也在消失。这不是增加负担的时候。波音正试图重塑他们因劣质产品而失败的形象。削减损失，完成任务。这里没有救助。
i guess if they push hard enough and the company moves remaining operations to south carolina, they could put an epic indoor water park in the everett building,
我想如果他们施压足够大，公司将剩余的业务搬到南卡罗来纳州，他们可以在埃弗雷特大楼里建一个史诗般的室内水上乐园。
a unx who can’t install a door plug. yes boeing and faa announced door plug bolts not tightened in renton plant.
一个连门插头都装不上的工会。是的，波音和联邦航空局宣布伦顿工厂的门插头螺栓没有拧紧。
and tons have zero comprehension levels
而且很多人根本没有理解能力。
but wait… that’s managements fault right?
等等……那是管理层的错，对吧？
disappointing news.
令人失望的消息。
@nicolelovesbiggie2269 we deserve better, it’s great news to fight for a better contract
我们应得更好的，这是为了争取更好合同的好消息。
womp womp cry about it.
哼哼，哭吧。
@beefan3325 if there is a job left at the end.
如果到最后还有工作的话。
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thing is, if they get what they ask for, 1/4 of their workforce gets laid off
问题是，如果他们得到了他们要求的，四分之一的员工将被裁员。
@beefan3325 no you don't.
你们并不需要。
make it burn now. back to % and $3k signing bonus. never getting the pension back so that doesn’t exist in any contract language ever again. see you at the negotiating table on jan 2nd. have a great holiday season and maxed out credit cards.
现在就让它崩溃。回到25%和3000美元的签约奖金。养老金再也不会回来了，这在任何合同语言中都不会再出现。1月2日在谈判桌上见。祝你节日快乐，信用卡额度满满。
it is not good actually in the us people are getting layoffs and globally 10 percent because of this strike.
实际上在美国情况并不好，人们正在被裁员，全球有10%的裁员都是因为这次罢工。
remember that the strike would end instantly if the executives just gave the workers what they asked for.
记住，如果高管满足工人的要求，罢工会立即结束。
this strike caused me to lose a great job. thankfully, i have found another great job and there’s no greedy machinists at the new job.
这次罢工让我失去了一个很好的工作。幸运的是，我找到了另一个好工作，新工作中没有贪婪的技工。
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the machinists were compensated better than their peers at airbus going into this strike, but had the audacity to demand a 40% increase over the next few years.......as i have said before, boeing absolutely must deal with their unx problem once and for all or they simply cannot remain financially solvent. exceptional pain ahead for everyone, including the community.
技工的薪酬在这次罢工前比空客的同行要好，但他们竟然有胆量在接下来的几年中要求40%的加薪……正如我之前所说，波音必须彻底解决他们的工会问题，否则他们将无法保持财务健康。每个人，包括社区，都将面临极大的痛苦。
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you sound like a manager, wr have not had a full contract in 16 years. airlaine m3chanics make anywhere between 65 to 80 $ an hour. what do you know know about it.
你听起来像个管理者，我们已经16年没有完整合同了。航空公司的技工时薪在65到80美元之间。你对此了解多少？
the wages paid at panda express are better than boeing under the previous contract
在熊猫快餐店的工资比波音在之前合同下的工资更高。
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that last contract had boeings most profitable years, people really dont seem to understand how much money gors through boeing and how little these workers (5% cost of a plane, according to boeing itself) actually cost.
那份最后的合同是波音最赚钱的年份，人们似乎真的不理解波音通过了多少钱，这些工人（根据波音自己说的，占飞机成本的5%）实际上成本多么低。
well then. how much does a grade 4 assembler make at airbus? got numbers? and where in europe? the cost of living in the pacific northwest is way higher than most anywhere in europe.
那么，四级装配工在空客的工资是多少？有数据吗？在欧洲的哪个地方？太平洋西北地区的生活成本远高于欧洲大部分地区。
washington's governor should risk a constitutional crisis by signing the contract.
华盛顿州的州长应该冒着引发宪法危机的风险签署这份合同。